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- *---== STReport International Online Magazine ==---*
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- * AMIGA EDITION *
- "The Original Amiga Online Magazine"
- from
- STR Publishing
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- March 19, 1993 No.1.01
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- > 03/19/93 STR-Amiga 1.01 "The Original * Independent * Online Magazine!"
- """""""""""""""""""""""
- - The Editor's Desk - CPU Report - New Products
- - Rendered Reality - STR Confidential - Imagemaster Update
- - STR Online - BBS Ethics - Motorola 68060
- - STR Staff Bio's - Dealer Directory - CD ROM Review
- - A1200 HD Problems? - CIS Lowers Prices - New Anim7 Format
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- -* World of Commodore Seminars *-
- -* A1200/Atari Falcon Comparison *-
- -* A Plea from Babylon 5's Creator *-
- -* A New Strain of Virus?? *-
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- Amiga Report International Online Magazine
- From STR Publications
- [S]ilicon [T]imes [R]eport
- The Original * Independent * Online Magazine
- -* FEATURING WEEKLY *-
- "Accurate UP-TO-DATE News and Information"
- Current Events, Original Articles, Tips, Rumors, and Information
- Hardware ~ Software ~ Corporate ~ R & D ~ Imports
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- to the Readers of;
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- > From the Editor's Desk "Saying it like it is!"
- """"""""""""""""""""""
-
- Welcome to the first issue of Amiga Report! I'm glad you've decided to
- take a look and see what we're all about. I'm sure you will enjoy what we
- have to offer.
-
- You might be wondering why we've started Amiga Report. To answer that,
- I must tell you a little about myself. I've had my Amiga 1200 since early
- January of this year. Before that, I had owned Atari computers, from the
- 8-bit that I got in January of 1982, up to the Mega STE I owned until late
- December, 1992. Like many Atari owners, I was disgusted with Atari's poor
- management and inability to deliver new products. I decided it was time to
- change platforms. PC's were out of the question for obvious reasons, and
- Macs are too expensive. The only real choice was the Amiga. I had always
- admired the Amiga's ability to multitask, and with the new AGA machines
- coming out, the choice became clear.
-
- Anyway, one of the things that I missed from my Atari days was the
- plethora of information available in no fewer than FOUR online magazines --
- ST-Report, Z*Net, Atari Explorer Online and GEnie Lamp (the latter being
- a monthly publication). The only "online magazine" for the Amiga is
- ViewPort, which is assembled by the GEnie Amiga RoundTable sysops. While a
- worthwhile effort, it was more a collection of reviews than anything else.
- The weekly online magazines in the Atari world always published the latest,
- most up-to-date you could find anywhere. Between them, there was almost no
- need to subscribe to "real" paper-based magazines.
-
- So, my system is an Amiga 1200, presently with only the included 2 meg
- of chip RAM (more coming soon, as finances allow), a Maxtor 80 meg hard
- drive, a SupraFAX V.32bis modem, HP DeskJet Plus and Panasonic KX-P1124
- printers, a MiGraph Hand Scanner, and an NEC II multisync monitor.
-
- We presently have four people involved directly with the magazine.
- Micah Thompson is our Technical Editor, Mike Troxell is our Graphics
- Editor, and Tom Mulcahy, a contributing editor. There is a short bio on
- each of them later in the issue, so you can get to know them.
-
- Our goal is to provide accurate, up-to-date information about the Amiga
- and its users. We are an independent publication, free from regulation by
- any company or online service. Our information will be as accurate as
- possible, and will not be biased in any way. If we like something, we will
- gladly say so. If not, we will not hesitate to speak our mind. We have no
- hidden agendas.
-
- Some people may remember the last attempt at Amiga Report, which was
- referred to as AM-Report. We are not they, and they are not us. We are
- totally new, with no ties to the former magazine other than sharing the
- same publisher.
-
- With that said, I'll shut up so you can get on with the issue. Enjoy!
-
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- Amiga Report's Staff DEDICATED TO SERVING YOU!
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- Editor
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- Robert Glover
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- Technical Editor Graphics Editor Contributing Editor
- ---------------- --------------- -------------------
- Micah Thompson Mike Troxell Tom Mulcahy
- CIS: 71726,2657 71514,2413
- GEnie: BOOMER.T M.TROXELL1
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- IMPORTANT NOTICE
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- Please, submit letters to the editor, articles, reviews, etc...
- via E-Mail to:
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- > CPU STATUS REPORT LATE BREAKING INDUSTRY-WIDE NEWS
- =================
-
-
- Commodore announces two new enhancements for the Amiga 1200:
-
- A1200 Hard Drive Kit $39
- P/N: 591201-01
- - install disk and fonts disk
- - cable assembly
- - mounting screws
- - Amiga Hard Disk User's Guide
- - AmigaDOS manual
- - Amiga ARexx manual
- - upgrade instructions
- - approved hard drive list
-
- Available from authororized Commodore resellers; the A1200 hard drive kit
- requires Commodore Authorized Service installation.
-
-
- AS217 Documentation $23
- - AmigaDOS manual
- - Amiga ARexx manual
-
- Available from CommodoreExpress (800) 448-9987.
-
- Commodore Business Machines
- 1200 Wilson Dr.
- West Chester, PA 19380
- (215) 431-9100
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- Blackbelt Announces Newest Imagemaster!
- =======================================
-
-
- For Immediate Release
-
- March 16th, 1993
-
- Glasgow Montana
-
- Black Belt Systems is in the process of releasing a major new upgrade to
- our Imagemaster product, designated v9.50.
-
- If you are one of the many people who have ordered Imagemaster under our
- "Power-Up" program, but have not yet received your copy of Imagemaster,
- this list should give you an idea of the benefits to you of your long
- wait; almost 90% of these features have been added since the Power-Up
- offer was made public, and you're going to get all of them at no extra
- charge. Thank you for your patience!
-
- For more information, call (800) 852-6442 Toll-free, or outside the USA
- and Canada, call (406) 367-5513. You can FAX us orders at (406) 367-2329.
- Our multi-line, 9600 (HST & v32) open user BBS is reachable at (406)
- 367-2227.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- v9.50 New Features List - Some new features of Imagemaster v9.50
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- - Now includes support for selected EPSON flatbed scanner models, standard
- with the upgrade or release. Includes ES300, ES600 and ES800. (We can
- provide prewired cables, also). This scanner support is based on the
- Metadigm "Metascan" product, an integrated version of which is now
- supplied with Imagemaster. (If you own the ASDG scanner driver, you can
- use that cable with our new driver - or, we have optional cables available
- for purchase).
-
- - Aspect sense; determines the exact aspect of your monitor/mode combo
- simply, easily and in a foolproof manner. Even takes into account any
- distortions introduced by monitor width/height settings.
-
- - Exact Aspect display mode; aspect ratio correct display capability.
- This, in combination with Aspect Sense, allows you to see and work on
- images exactly as they are intended to appear.
-
- - Supports AGA 800x600 for work and render output.
-
- - New image and ANIM file format support:
- o Reads IFF images from the Amiga ClipBoard device
- o Writes IFF images to the Amiga ClipBoard device
- o Reads ALL kinds of TIFF image files (in both IBM and Mac formats)
- o Writes 24-bit TIFF files
- o Reads Windows BMP image files
- o Writes Windows BMP image files
- o Reads AGA mode ANIM frames
- o Generates AGA mode ANIMS
- o Reads frames from Autodesk FLI/FLC Animation files (IBM PC format)
- o Writes AutoDesk FLI/FLC animation files
- o Reads MacPaint files
- o Reads NoteBook files
- o Reads Amiga .info files
- o Reads 12-bit General Electric MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) files
- o Reads PCX files
- o Reads WinImages:morph 24-bit filmstrip files
-
- - Many file formats that were previously only available via the F1 key
- route are now able to be automatically loaded thru the simple File I/O
- method, automatically.
-
- - Completely revamped CMY+(K) color sep capabilities for more accurate
- color prepress operations.
-
- - New, faster 256 preset color AGA display method for good looking preview
- mode that does not require new palette computation when changes are made
- to an image.
-
- - Completely new palette control area for AGA machines
- o Attractive new look display
- o 256 visible, modifiable colors, with individual render tags
- o Full 18-bit colorspace color cube onscreen at all times
- o Color Cube preset, prescan, FG set and BG set
- o "Painter's Palette" feathering and mixing area
- o 24-bit accurate color palette displays
- o On-screen range manipulation tools
- o Copy, Exg, Hue-Spread, RGB-Spread, Mirror-Spread, Insert Range
- o Hue-sort, Value Sort, Undo changes
- o 640x400 or 800x600 resolutions for palette, fully promotable
- o CMY, RGB, HSV, HSL and CMYK adjustment modes
- o Load and Save palettes WITH palette control information
- o Selected colors have live marques - quick & easy to spot
- o Ability to absolutely control palette for rendering images:
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- o Any color or combination of colors: "NOT TO BE USED AT ALL"
- o Any color or combination of colors: "USE AS IS"
- o Any color or combination of colors: "AUTOPICK BEST COLOR"
-
- - Single key "insta-swap" of primary and secondary images.
-
- - Complete reworked buffer-generating Perspective operation.
-
- - Brand new compose-level Perspective option.
-
- - Support for Centaur's Opalvision display board.
-
- - New scientific functions:
- o Add a constant
- o Sub a constant
- o Div by constant
- o Mult by constant
- o Mult by secondary
- o Div by secondary
- o Logarithm base N of X For our scientific users!
- o N raised to X
- o Raise to power
- o Root
- o Arbitrary Profiles
- o Arbitrary Spectrums (1-D Fast Fourier Transforms)
- o Variance Conversions
-
- - New higher power "Sharpening" function.
-
- - Sends images directly to GVP's ImageFX software.
-
- - Includes high quality "Poster Printer" capability.
-
- - New ARexx commands:
- o userload ----- loads new images via the familiar user interface
- o simpload ----- loads new images to a non-specific buffer
- o forcewbfront - Brings WB to front no matter the autoactivate state
- o forcefront --- Brings IM to front no matter the autoactivate state
- o ehlp --------- Takes IM error numbers and reports error in english
- o perspect ----- generates perspective operations
-
- - Small panel re-organizations in many locations for ease of use.
-
- - Control panels smooth scroll & autorepair AmigaDOS screen positioning
- bugs.
-
- - Radial wave now utilizes image's aspect ratio
-
- - All I/O requesters now open on Imagemaster screens; this reduces screen
- flipping and prevents monitor re-syncing stress when running 800x600 in
- either Imagemaster or another application (including the WorkBench).
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- Other Imagemaster News as of v9.50
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- - Syndesis introduces Mac PICT-format reader & writer (3rd party).
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- Imagemaster is Copyright 1992-1993 Black Belt Systems ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
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- New Anim7 Animation Format!
- ===========================
- Compiled by Micah Thompson
-
-
-
- FLASH! There is joy in AmigaVille! AGA now blazes with glory!
-
- Well, by now you are wondering what I'm raving about. It's the arrival of a
- new animation format referred to as the Anim7 format.
-
- Since the arrival of the A4000, very fast animation rates were touted as a
- great advantage of AGA. Thirty and sixty frames per second (fps) were touted
- as easily attainable by AGA, in any resolution.
-
- Users grew eager though as the regular Anim5 format usually animated at a
- slower rate, and people cried "where are the 60 fps animations we've all
- heard about?"
-
- Well, get ready. I've converted some Anim5 animations to Anim7 and they
- run at 60fps on my A4000.
-
- This is the answer for the people crying for more animation speed.
-
- Here is the introduction from the docs of MakeAnim7, which is included in
- in the archive of Viewtek 1.04, the great display program by Thomas
- Krehbiel. VT 1.04 plays Anim7's at amazing speed!
-
-
- INTRODUCTION
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- The ANIM7 format proposed by Wolfgang Hofer provides MUCH better ani-
- mation playback speed, which is especially needed for AGA-mode animations.
- The tradeoff is a larger animation file (ie.the compression isn't as good).
-
- *Note: The anims I've converted are not much bigger at all in Anim7 format.
- -Micah
-
- So, here is a little utility to convert your existing animations into
- ANIM7 animations in a fairly straightforward manner. MakeAnim7 can also
- read the ANIM8's that come from MorphPlus, so you can (and should, since
- ANIM7 is much better) convert them too.
-
- (This program requires 2.04, BTW.)
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- Computer Products Update - CPU Report
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- Weekly Happenings in the Computer World
-
- Issue #10
-
- By: John Deegan
-
- Reprinted from STReport Atari Edition #9.10
-
-
- VERBATIM OFFERS NEW "P-ROM" DISKS - A new 3.5-inch partial-ROM (P-ROM)
- disk has been introduced by Verbatim Corp., which calls this the first image
- image and data storage optical product "to combine both magneto-optic and
- read-only functionality."
-
- John Stevens, manager of Verbatim's optical storage products marketing,
- said, "The ROM portion of the media may be embossed permanently with data,
- such as a software application, and the rewritable portion of the disk is
- left available for user files."
-
- The disks provide a total combined ROM and rewritable capacity of 128MB.
-
-
- MICROSOFT SAYS FAKE DOS, WINDOWS SOFTWARE SEIZED BY GOVERNMENT - Recent
- government raids in California uncovered large amounts of counterfeit MS-DOS
- 5 and Windows 3.1 operating systems, officials with publisher Microsoft
- Corp. said today.
-
- Microsoft said raids in San Jose and Concord yielded counterfeit items
- produced under the trade names OEM's Spring Circle and BTI.
-
- Microsoft did not place a dollar value on the seized items in the raids
- which the company said were staged by local and federal authorities on Jan.
- 20, Jan. 21 and Feb. 3 in San Jose and on Feb. 18 in Concord.
-
-
- SURVEY HAS HOME COMPUTER ON RISE - A new consumer survey finds home
- computerists last year spent more time at their PCs and worked with a
- broader spectrum of applications than they did a year earlier.
-
- Also, more than 42% of the 2,500 PC owners surveyed for Packard Bell by
- California Research Tabulations Inc. said their primary use for the com-
- puter is personal (such as letter writing) or pleasure (game playing).
- Another 37% said their PCs are used primarily for business, while 21% said
- their PC is used by household members for school work.
-
- In a statement from Chatsworth, Calif., Fred Kern, vice president of
- product marketing at Packard Bell, said, "We're seeing more diversity in how
- computers are being utilized in the home. Users are spending more time at
- their PCs and are increasing their use of many popular types of app-
- lications."
-
- Other findings:
-
- -:- Almost half the respondents said they spent more than 10 hours per
- week at the computer, compared with 30% in 1991. Nearly one in 10 said they
- use their computers more than 30 hours per week.
-
- -:- More than 80% classified themselves as having at least some computer
- knowledge and half said they are relatively knowledgeable or "power users."
-
- -:- Word processing increased as the application used "most of the time"
- by 14 points to 57.2%. Desktop publishing products usage rose 6.7% to
- 11.2%, while spreadsheets saw a moderate increase as the primary application
- to 21.1% from 18%.
-
- -:- Personal/business finance software and entertainment software were
- designated as applications people use most of the time by 28.5% and 27.4%,
- respectively.
-
- -:- Database software, at 16.2%, and telecommunications software at
- 15.7%, showed up for the first time in the survey.
-
- -:- Citing the single factor that most influenced their purchase de-
- cision, about a third of the respondents chose "features" as most important,
- another third mentioned "price," while one-tenth cited "reliability."
-
- -:- When asked to named several factors that greatly influenced their
- purchase decision, four out of five answered "features" and "price," seven
- out of 10 placed weight on "reliability" and three out of five on
- "warranty." Meanwhile, "recommendation of friend" held less weight than the
- other factors with one out of five taking this into consideration.
-
- Finally, many respondents either added accessories to their systems or
- will do so in the next 12 months. Heading the list were additional RAM, a
- laser printer, a math coprocessor, a CD-ROM drive, a larger hard disk drive
- and a modem.
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- > ONLINE WEEKLY STReport Online People... Are Talking!
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-
- From GEnie:
-
- Amiga 1200 Hard Disk Problems
-
-
- Category 15, Topic 21
- Message 29 Fri Jan 08, 1993
- DENNYA [[[[Denny]]]] at 09:51 EST
-
- IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR ANYONE INSTALLING THEIR OWN HARD DRIVE IN AN A1200 OR
- A4000! ESPECIALLY QUANTUM DRIVES!
-
- I posted this as a response to Jose before I discovered he'd fixed his
- problem. However, there is a bug in the IDE large-transfer implemenation in
- some hard disk drives, Quantum in particular. With these drives you have to
- change the MaxTransfer value or files >130K in size get mangled.
-
- Load HDToolBox, go to the Parititioning screen, click Advanced Options, click
- Change File System, and change the MaxTransfer value to 0x1ffff. (This is
- covered in detail in a certain Tips and Secrets book. :-) I know for sure you
- need to do this with Quantum drives.
-
- Editor's Note: This is also the case with all Maxtor 2.5" IDE drives.
-
-
- ______________________________
-
-
-
- Ever wonder why the Amiga has never gotten an upgrade to the game Falcon?
-
- Amiga RT
- Category 6, Topic 3
- Message 241 Wed Mar 10, 1993
- HOLOBYTE [The Cat] at 12:20 EST
-
- Please note, in the following I am putting aside my corprate OFFICIAL capacity
- and trying to give a realistic view. I mean no offense and do not wish my
- words, in this case, to be the words of Spectrum HoloByte. But I have been
- with Spectrum HoloByte for almost 3 years, and I have watched things evolve.
- Also, I am leaving out anything about any other company's willingness or
- unwillingness to do anything.
-
- When we say the 'power' if the 386, we are really talking the SPEED of the
- 386. Why, even Falcon 3.0 for the IBM requires that you are running AT LEAST
- 33Mhz to get really, really realistic game play. Sure, it will PLAY on a 12Mhz
- 286, but it looks and handles like a sick pig.
-
-
- Yes, we could do a Falcon 3.0 for the Amiga, or even the Atari. It would only
- run PROPERLY on the 4000's and maybe the 1200's and the other more powerful
- machines. Which is a SMALL number of Amigas compared to the 500s that are out
- there. So only a SMALL portion of the Amiga market would be able to run it at
- all to start with.
-
- Also, it would take AT LEAST TWO YEARS to develop and program, as it would
- have to ALL be done FROM SCRATCH. Just like it was done on the IBM.
-
- You want the REAL UNOFFICIAL reason for Falcon 3.0 not being done on the
- Amiga? MONEY. When we marketed Flight of the Intruder for the Amiga.... ONLY
- about a maximum of 8,000 copies were ever ordered by retailers and consumers.
- Period. 8,000 copies. That barely BARELY allowed a break even on materials,
- advertising and all the things that cost money AFTER a product is complete. It
- did NOT break even on the man hours that went into it. (Don't feel bad though,
- the Atari version only sold around 1,500... not enough to even come close to
- breaking even anywhere.)
-
- The break even point for any piece of entertainment software is usuall around
- 25,000 to 35,000 copies. That's the break even. It takes a product earning a
- company PROFIT to get them to make more and more and more.
-
- (BTW, at one time, the 8,000 mark that FOTI Amiga hit would have been just
- fine, but inflation and all that changed things.)
-
- Now, compare it to Falcon 3.0 for the IBM. It has sold over 200,000 copies.
- 80,000 of that in the first 3 months!
-
- You do the math. Which would you say was making you enough money to justify
- doing more and more?
-
- BTW, the most copies of Falcon Amiga to ever sell since its release in 1988 is
- about 48,000. And that took over 4 years. And that was considered Good prior
- to 1991 or so. But the US market, weither any of us like it or not (I love my
- Amiga! I want more quality software for it, believe me!), is a IBM/compatibles
- and MAC _Dominated_ market.
-
- I WANT Falcon 3.0 for my Amiga (I am one of those wierd people that is
- addicted to home computers.... I have a Atari 520ST, a DEC Rainbow 100, a CBM
- Pet 2001, a TRS-80 Model 1, a Amiga 500, and several IBM/compatibles... and
- WANT a Mac LC III and a Amiga 4000),
- I believe that it would, if SH would do it, kick the <censored> out of it on
- the IBM, big time. But if you look at the numbers...
-
- Of course, if any of you out there have a few million US Dollars to
- donate with the proviso that it would have to be used to make a Amiga version
- of Falcon 3.0, it might be worth trying to convince Spectrum HoloByte of the
- 'error' of their ways.
-
- Reality being what it is, I'm not holding my breath. (Oh, and btw, I am not
- rich, I have picked up most of those older computers at flea markets, garage
- sales and the like, I did NOT get them when they were new, except for the TRS-
- 80 Model 1 and the Amiga 500.)
-
- Just my 2 cents, er, dollars (inflation, don't you know) worth
-
- Denny:
- SH is quite aware of the Euro Versions of FOTI and the sales levels of
- it. The Agreement with Rowan and the now defunct MirrorSoft as that they got
- the money from the European Sales and SH got the money from US sales. Word I
- hear, Euro Sales of FOTI still never topped the 30,000 copies mark. And SH
- never sees a dime of that.
-
-
- STUPID:
- You can't be more correct. At present we do NOT have the in- house
- resources to do a Falcon 3.0 for the Amiga. We would have to, once again, go
- to Rowen or Digital Integration (present people with the option to upgrade
- Falcon Amiga, I think, but don't quote me).
-
- Remember, every letter that a company gets from people represents a lot more
- than 1 voice. It is figured, in general, that 1 letter equals from 3-10
- voices. So if 10000 of you out there right, that would sound like 30000-100000
- people! That would make a impact. Believe me!
-
- Karl Maurer
- The Cat
- Spectrum HoloByte Customer Support
- ----------
- Category 6, Topic 3
- Message 244 Thu Mar 11, 1993
- E.LOFTUS1 [Glenn...] at 22:08 EST
-
- Holobyte--
-
- > Yes, we could do a Falcon 3.0 for the Amiga . . . It would only run
- > PROPERLY on the 4000's and maybe the 1200's and the other more
- > powerful machines. Which is a SMALL number of Amigas compared to
- > the 500s that are out there.
-
- Argh! I'm really getting tired of this argument. Does anyone have a
- ballpark estimate for the number of 14+ MHz accelerators sold for the 500 and
- 2000? I got my '030 over a year ago, and most of the other A2000 owners I
- know also have accelerators.
-
- > MONEY. When we marketed Flight of the Intruder for the Amiga....
- > ONLY about a maximum of 8,000 copies were ever ordered by retailers
- > and consumers. Period. 8,000 copies.
-
- There's one on the bookshelf behind me. I had no idea it was a collectable.
- Notably, FOTI is no longer installed on my hard-drive, though FDPro is.
-
- > Now, compare it to Falcon 3.0 for the IBM. It has sold over
- > 200,000 copies.
-
- Falcon 3.0 is a much better program than is FOTI. Note that when it was
- released, the majority of installed DOS machines couldn't run it properly.
- (I'd say you need a 386DX-33 or better for it to run acceptably.)
- --Glenn...
- ----------
- Amiga RT
- Category 6, Topic 3
- Message 246 Fri Mar 12, 1993
- DENNYA [[[[Denny]]]] at 13:18 EST
-
- Holobyte,
-
- No fair comparing Falcon 3.0 PC sales with FOTI Amiga sales.
-
- What were FOTI sales on the PC?
-
-
- ______________________________
-
-
-
- Emplant Legality Concerns!
-
-
- Here's an interesting discussion going on in the Atari ST RT, Category 18,
- Topic 22: Atari vs. Other Systems.
-
- Off-topic messages have been deleted. Some messages have been slightly
- edited for brevity. I apologize for the length of this thread. They aren't
- usually this long!
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 51 Fri Feb 19, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 23:10 EST
-
- Hello...
-
- I am the Vice-President of Utilities Unlimited, Inc. and we make the evil
- EMPLANT hardware that you have been talking about. :-)
-
- EMPLANT is a multi-platform emulation system capable of emulating virtually
- any computer that we write support modules for *and you have the ROMs for*.
- This is really no different than what Dave Small is doing with Spectre, or the
- GEMulator.
-
- We do require that you have the ROMs or a ROM image of the computer that you
- are going to be emulating. 'ROM images' can be obtained from the computer
- *that you own*. You can buy the TOS upgrade ROMs (I did), and use these ROMs
- in the board. We have been round-n-round with many law firms over the
- legalities of this and we are in no way violating anyone's copyrights.
-
- At this point, Atari ST/Falcon is a long ways down the road. We are still
- working on the MAC family, then the IBM.
-
- The sole reason for using ROM images is that due to the nature of the Amiga's
- multitasking operating system, we can have more than one emulation running on
- the same computer at the same time. We support DIPS & SIMM ROMs with our
- board, but only enough sockets for a single set of ROMs. Therefore, we backup
- the ROM image onto disk and load them this way.
-
- EMPLANT is not designed to be a tool for pirates to distribute ROM images, and
- at $399, it is too expensive for your average scumbag software thief. There is
- no way in hell any of the emulations will work without the EMPLANT hardware.
- This guarantees protection for all of us. 90% of our sales to date have been
- to people who own MACs for their business, and want to work at home with their
- Amiga emulating their MAC.
-
- If you have questions or comments, please email me or drop by our support
- section on GEnie (m555;1 - set 14; 31).
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Jim Drew, Vice-President
- Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
- jdrew@cryo.rain.com
- jdrew.2
-
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 55 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- T.MCCOMB [=Tom=] at 11:48 EST
-
- Ummm, maybe I'm like real dense, but I don't see where your 'system' affords
- anyone (Computer Manufacturers) any protection other than yourself.
-
- You state that nothing will 'run' without YOUR board. OK, that protects YOU.
-
- You state it will run ROM images off disk. What guarantees that those ROM
- image files are legal? Legal meaning that they were created by the current
- owner, from a set of ROMs that he BOUGHT. I don't think it is even legal to
- remove the ROMS from a second computer, copy them to disk and run both the
- disk image and the real ROMs (on the original computer) at the same time.
-
- I don't see how you can prevent people from using pirated (stolen) copies of
- OS ROM images if your board will execute them from a disk file. That file
- could have come from anywhere.
-
- I think Atari will be ringing you up.
-
- -Tom McComb
- {11:45 pm} Friday, February 19, 1993
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 57 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- D.ENGEL [Thunderbird] at 13:05 EST
-
- I think we are putting the cart before the horse here. I see a lot of
- arguments to the effect of: "Hey, you can't allow disk ROM images to be loaded
- into your Emplant board, because that would mean that some dishonest people
- would make illegal copies of ROM's, and trade/sell/give them away!"
-
- Why is this any different than saying "Hey, you can't sell computers with
- disk drives that _write_ to disks, because some dishonest people would try to
- copy floppy disk software illegally, to trade/sell/etc."?!?!?!?
-
- There will _ALWAYS_ be people who will copy software programs, be them on
- ROM's, Carts, or disks. It is a well supported theory that the majority of IBM
- clones are sold to consumers based on the fact that there is such a _W_I_D_E_
- selection of "free" software out there.
-
- I really don't see any reason to attack this product, because it is no more
- or less of a piracy encouraging device than any other piece of computer
- hardware you can buy. Besides that, it is a product made for a _non klone_
- machine. Anyone who supports _non klones_ deserves all of OUR support.
-
- ______________________
- \hunderbird
-
- 'cause COMPUTERS don't pirate... PEOPLE do!
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 58 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- J.NESS [Jim] at 13:57 EST
-
- Tom McComb -
-
- Note two points that J.DREW2 made.
-
- 1) His lawyers say he is okay. (from this I conclude he is not concerned
- about a call from Apple, and that's MUCH more significant than a call from
- Atari)
-
- 2) His company is not building an Atari emulator any time soon. (from this I
- conclude that it would be difficult for Atari to build a case against him)
-
- Now, do you still believe Atari will be in contact with him?
-
- Realistically, his company would not be the one using stolen software, in any
- case. If a user chose to steal a disk image of a rom OS, the user would be
- the one at fault.
-
- -JN
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 59 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- T.MCCOMB [=Tom=] at 16:16 EST
-
- Yeah, Jim, I do.
-
- For the same reason the GCR/Magic SAC/GEMulator were required to operate with
- ROMs and not disk based ROM images.
-
- Fired up the ol'MEGA today, eh?
-
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 60 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- J.NESS [Jim] at 18:14 EST
-
- Tom -
-
- It's not like the products you mentioned were changed due to a lost lawsuit.
- In at least one case, Atari promised to leave the developer alone if there
- were roms onboard. The developer chose to take the easy route.
-
- This particular developer may choose the easy route, too. If Atari complains,
- he may just forgo the dozen or so possible sales. He did say that Apple and
- IBM emulation were coming before Atari emulation.
-
- Or, he may just depend upon what his attorneys said, and go ahead as he
- wishes, with a disk-loaded rom image. Let's watch, shall we? If Apple
- doesn't sue, Atari hasn't got a chance. Apple are the lawsuit masters of our
- time.
-
- No, I didn't fire up the Mega yet today. Tomorrow for sure. I've got some
- bug fixes to work on.
-
- -JN
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 61 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 19:11 EST
-
- Well, AMAX has had a patch to allow the ROMs to be disk based for years.
- There has been a 5 year precedence set, and Apple has not responded to *any*
- of the MAC/Apple II emulators out there.
-
- The Amiga has had THREE Atari emulators...ALL of which used TOS as a disk
- based file. The first came out nearly 4 years ago. The latest version uses a
- piece of hardware (the others were software only), and not to hold the ROMs.
- The hardware allows for up to 16 Atari ST's running at the same time on the
- Amiga...all using the same ROM code. Now, *that* is technically illegal.
- According to additions to the software copyright laws made in 1991, you are
- not allowed to use the same software on more than one computer at the same
- time without express written permission of the software publisher.
-
- This means that if you use your Atari ST ROMs out of your ST for the ROM
- image, and you were running an emulation using this ROM image, you *would* be
- breaking the law by turning on your Atari ST (the computer that the ROM image
- came from) and using it while the emulation was running.
-
- If you purchased a set of ROMs for the emulation, used them only to obtain the
- image, and put them away for safe keeping, you would not be breaking the law.
- However, if at any time you were to sell the original ROMs, "all archival
- copies must be transferred to the to purchaser or destroyed".
-
- We do provide sources to Apple ROMs, and we have made these sources a small
- fortune. Apple ROMs are not cheap.
-
- Atari ROMs are like Amiga and IBM BIOS ROMs, reasonably priced.
-
- What we are doing is not illegal. We sell the gun, and rely on people not to
- rob a bank with it. ;-)
-
- Jim Drew
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 62 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- DENNYA [Denny Atkin] at 21:16 EST
-
- I think it would be really interesting if ATARI sued the Emplant folks when
- APPLE doesn't find the board worth worrying about...
-
- But then again, I know previous Atari emulators for the Amiga were quashed by
- Atari's legal folks.
-
- I'm all for protecting intellectual property, but just imagine if the amount
- of money spent on lawyers went to product development or overseeing Falcon
- manufacturing instead... Gotta wonder.
-
- IMHO, it would behoove Atari to have lots of Amigas emulating the ST/Falcon
- series. Could double the U.S. installed base of machines that could use ST
- software, which would be good for keeping the software market alive.
-
- ..Mr. Devil's Advocate
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 63 Sat Feb 20, 1993
- T.MCCOMB [=Tom=] at 22:38 EST
-
- Denny- I agree, as long as they are using LEGAL ROMs. The same people that
- would use pirated ROM images wouldn't think twice about using pirated programs
- too. That'd do NOTHING to help keep the software market alive.
-
- -Tom McComb
- {10:13 pm} Saturday, February 20, 1993
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 64 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll] at 01:54 EST
-
- S.DANUSER - So long as you own a legitimate set of ROM's, it's debatable
- whether 'dumping' the ROM data to disk is illegal or not. There's a big
- difference between a licensing agreement and the law.
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 65 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- S.DANUSER [Soul Manager] at 03:07 EST
-
- I think Atari would be more concerned about emulators than Apple because of
- the relative market shares. A few hundred (or even thousand) emulators are a
- drop in the bucket to Apple, and do not impose on their turf at all. But to
- Atari, those hundreds of emulators make up a much larger percentage of
- potential Atari owners. Theoretically, each emulator in use is a sale lost by
- Atari (yes, I know it doesn't work that way in reality, but the principle is
- valid).
-
- As for the argument that emulators increase Atari's market share, I'm sure
- Atari would much rather sell a computer than ROMs for an emulator. Certainly
- they'd much rather sell a computer than see their OS code be pirated in a disk
- file.
-
- Soul Manager
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 66 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 06:07 EST
-
- Somebody mention "licensed" software. It is interesting to note that Apple
- and Atari do not license their ROMs. They are sold. Commodore and IBM are
- the same as well. Until recently (System 7.x releas) Apple's OS was available
- here on GEnie for no fee and there were no restrictions for it's distribution.
- Now, their OS is "licensed", but still not their ROMs.
-
- ROMs are software. Software is sold or it is licensed. All ROMs from Apple,
- Atari, & Commodore are sold and not licensed. However, even if these ROMs
- were licensed our product and what it does is not illegal.
-
- We are not out to "steal" any business from Atari or any company. We are
- providing a service to the computer inthusiast by limiting the number of
- complete systems that they have to purchase. People do not have the deskspace
- for computers that they may not really use very often.
-
- I have written copy programs for _all_ computers (including the Atari ST) for
- the last 16 years. I have dealt with litterally hundreds of lawyers
- concerning copyright laws. I know the laws, and we are not breaking them.
-
- I do not understand why people are scared by ROM 'images'. Spectre GCR, The
- GEMulator, Cameleon, AmiTari, and other emulators dump the ROMs _on their
- hardware_ into memory, modify the code, and presto..emulation. A disk loaded
- file is dumped into memory, modified, and presto...there really is no
- difference. I _would_ have required ROMs to be installed at all times with
- our emulators, except that our system is much more complex than most people
- realize. We can run multiple computer emulations at the same time with a
- single EMPLANT board. You can not install 3 different ROMs into the same
- socket, no matter how hard you try. :-) ...and our hardware has the ability
- to add RAM to the sockets that the ROMs are placed in. We have the ability
- to add another processor (386/486, 6502, Z80, etc.) to our board to insure
- emulation speed and compatibility. Yes, our product is very complex is
- design.
-
- As far as honesty goes, I can honestly tell you that we have had customers pay
- as high as $650 for MAC IIx ROMs. MAC ROMs (despite the horror stories) are
- readily available. Apple has restricted authorized service centers from
- selling the ROMs, however, there are non-authorized service centers that sell
- them. Also, Apple is forced in some countrys to sell _all_ service parts to
- the general public (laws of the particular country) and customers have been
- getting ROMs this way.
-
- I am not sure what Atari's position reguarding TOS will be. It is really too
- bad that people here feel threatened by a system that could help Atari, Apple,
- and Commodore. IBM emulation is of course, the easiest to "get away with" as
- companies sell their BIOS ROMs for $19.95 these days.
-
- The bottom line is this...we are not breaking any laws, and do not intend to.
- Our Atari emulation will be an Atari 1040ST, and it might be available to our
- customers for Christmas time...and we are not developing it. We have released
- developer packages to companies so that they can create their own emulation
- modules for use with the EMPLANT hardware. To date, 6 companies are working on
- emulations for every from the ST to the Sega Genesis game machine.
-
- Maybe it is time for this horrific division of computer owners to come
- together and realize that maybe everyone does make a good computer. I am sick
- of hearing in the Amiga area here on GEnie how much better the A1200 is than
- the Falcon... why? I think people should be doing better things than playing
- "keep up with the Smiths". Our product allows people to use a little of each
- thing that they like about all of the computers that they use, or would like
- to use...perhaps a peaceful solution in this day and age.
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 67 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 08:27 EST
-
- I really don't see much of a difference between the Emplant and the Spectre.
- The only difference is that it is able to read the ROM image from disk. As
- long as they do not distribute the ROM image, they are OK. I don't think most
- people have a problem with the Emplant. The only concern was about the ROM
- image on disk. They are quite a few people that have upgraded to another TOS
- version thus, there are quite a few older ROM sets out there.
-
- Heck, it may even help Atari sales. When they see how nice the ST is to
- use.... :-)
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 68 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- MIKE-ALLEN [NM~SysOp] at 14:39 EST
-
- I really don't see all the hoohaa about the roms. If the ROMs used by the
- Emplant board have been honestly procured what is the problem? (I've got a set
- of 1.2 roms left over from an update - of course would you really want to
- emulate 1.2?) 1.4 and 2.06 roms are readily available from legitimate sources.
-
- Let's face it, any halfway competent programmer could copy the Atati roms to
- disk easily. It could probably be done with several of the easily available
- PD/Shareware/Commercial products. A thief is a thief is a thief whether it's
- pirating software, not paying for shareware or copying roms.
-
- As long as the Emplant folks stress the use of legitimate roms, let's
- encourage them. We in the Atari world and those in the Amiga world have much
- in common, not the least of which is recognizing the limitations (not to
- mention costs) imposed on the 'main streamers' by Intel and MicroSoft.
-
- Amigoids <g> and Atarians are siblings under the skin. We are mavericks in
- the home computing world, we like 68Ks and we tend to be more knowledgeable
- about our machines than the average peeceer is about his/hers. We both would
- not tolerate the massive over-pricing of software seen in the DOS world. I
- believe that we both are much less tolerant of piracy than the DOSers.
-
- We both tend to have a missionary viewpoint about our respective machines.
- Maybe instead of trying to convert each other we should both look at the true
- 'heathens.'
-
- Welcome the Amigans to our BB. They can learn from us and there is much we
- can learn from them. Cross-fertilization of ideas can only benefit us both.
-
- So, to you Amigans out there, welcome to our home. "This is Liberty Hall.
- You can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard."
-
- Mike Allen
- HelpDesk~Sysop
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 69 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- T.MCCOMB [=Tom=] at 15:58 EST
-
- Mike-
-
- The problem is that the board DOESN'T required honestly procured ROMs. THAT'S
- the point. It will run fine with ill gotten disk based ROM image files.
-
- -Tom McComb
- {3:04 pm} Sunday, February 21, 1993
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 70 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 16:47 EST
-
- The EMPLANT hardware will dump EPROM images burned by hackers.
-
- The EMPLANT hardware will dump ROMs out of your own computer.
-
- The EMPLANT hardware is not breaking the law in either case. The majority of
- hand guns in the U.S. are legally owned. The majority of illegally used hand
- guns are from less than 1% of all hand guns. So, I suppose people would have
- it (at least some here) that we do away with hand guns because some moron
- decides to shoot his boss? Why don't we ban the rest of the constitution as
- well? Better yet, those of you who do not like the way the laws are move back
- to England where we all came from (and left) in the first place...
-
- I agree that the Amiga and Atari users share common roots...we all evolved
- from 8 bit machines (both 6502 even), and most of us have common goals with
- our machines.
-
- I can only see EMPLANT as an aide to the fight against the "big two" (read as
- Apple/IBM) to show that a little ingenuity and belief in a small computer can
- provide great satisfaction and knowledge (sounds like the Sunday afternoon
- soaps.) ;-)
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 71 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 19:55 EST
-
- Mike,
- I am surprised. A GEnie Sysop using such language. Tsk! Tsk!
- I do agree with what you said though. With the Falcon and MultiTos due out,
- there is a lot about multi-tasking and Flicker we don't know about.
-
- Tom,
- Well, the computer that so many of us use will also run that game that was
- just pirated from someones friend. Does this mean that my favorite computer
- should not be sold? The computer company provides us with the computer. What
- we do with it is up to us. The same goes for the Emplant board. The computer
- we use DOESN'T require HONESTLY purchased software to run either.
-
- I have heard of a program that will let you load in the MAC OS and emulate
- the Mac. Does this mean Atari should stop selling computers?
-
- Based on the logic I have read here, no computers should be manufactured
- because there is a lot of illegal activity that goes on with computers.
-
- Sheesh!!!
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 72 Sun Feb 21, 1993
- D.ENGEL [Thunderbird] at 22:43 EST
-
- Tom McComb:
-
- Your ST/TT/falcon030/Amiga/Mac/C=64/Klone/Whatever DOESN'T REQUIRE honestly
- procured game DISKS. I fail to see why this is ANY bit different.
-
- A binary data file is a binary data file no matter WHAT media it comes on.
- If you feel that because a disk is easier to copy than a ROM, then it must
- encourage piracy... then I submit to you that a disk is easier to copy than a
- hardcopy, so why don't all computer games come on paper?
-
- ______________________
- \hunderbird
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 73 Mon Feb 22, 1993
- STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll] at 02:15 EST
-
- T.MCCOMB - Yes, but the Spectre software was easily hacked to run a disk-based
- image file of the 128k Mac ROM's, so I still don't see a good argument AGAINST
- the Emplant board.
-
- Keep in mind too that Atari went after Nintendo for something that was
- primarily Atari's own fault.
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 74 Mon Feb 22, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 17:28 EST
-
- Jim,
-
- Thank you for dropping by and posting. So, are you saying
- that the ROMs are physically installed on a board in the computer
- (like GEMulator and Specter etc.)? If so, then I don't see a problem
- at all.
-
- Dan
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 75 Mon Feb 22, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 20:01 EST
-
- Dan @ Atari,
-
- The ROMs are installed on the EMPLANT hardware and then dumped to a disk file.
- This disk file (your archival backup of your own ROM code) is then loaded from
- disk and used by the emulation.
-
- Optionally, we provide software that dumps the ROM from your own computer to a
- disk file. This file would then be ported to the Amiga for use with the
- emulation.
-
- In either case, if the ROMs come from a functioning computer, you (under the
- law) could not run both the original computer and the emulation at the same
- time as this would be in violation of copyright laws added in 1991 (see laws
- reguarding multiple site software installations).
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 78 Tue Feb 23, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 20:40 EST
-
- Jim,
-
- Thanks for the info. If the ROMs are not physically
- required, though, to make the emulation run, we may indeed have a
- problem then. (ie it loads off disk when you run the emulation rather
- than off ROM)
-
- Dan
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 79 Wed Feb 24, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 16:49 EST
-
- Jim,
-
- What is the difference between a book and a rom? (yes, this
- is an important question).
-
- Dan
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 80 Wed Feb 24, 1993
- SLP at 19:54 EST
-
- I don't think anybody can really say what is a copyright violation or not
- (talking about a single user, non commercial purpose). I'm not all that
- familiar with copyright law, but I would imagine that a company who tries to
- stop you from using roms in your machine, whether or not they are copied to
- disk, would be laughed out of court.
- Are there any known cases where an individual has been found guilty of
- copyright infringement by a court of law for doing something like this, or
- even blatantly pirating every program they could get their hands on? I doubt
- it. Most everything I've heard of is either a settlement or commercial
- piracy.
-
- Scott
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 81 Wed Feb 24, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 22:09 EST
-
- Dan,
-
- A 'Book' is reading material bound by copyright laws pertaining to literature.
-
- A 'ROM' is (according to the law) software bound by copyright laws pertaining
- to electronic media.
-
- What is your point?
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 82 Thu Feb 25, 1993
- STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll] at 04:11 EST
-
- J.DREW2 - Here's ONE devout Atari user who's NOT going to jump on your behind
- over this. After all, you are COMPLETELY in the right in this matter (as far
- as myself and THE LAW are concerned). If Atari and others want to whine
- incessantly about it, that's THEIR waste of time! <grin>
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 83 Thu Feb 25, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 17:17 EST
-
- Jim,
-
- A book is information stored in a hard format, which any
- person, by law is not allowed to "make a backup copy of".
-
- A ROM is information stored in a hard format, which any
- person, by law is not allowed to "make a backup copy of".
-
- There is court precidence for this.
-
- There is also court precidence on it being illegal to make
- "backup" or "archival" copies of any rom to disk. This was done many
- years ago by Atari Inc in a case against a company that made a device
- that would copy 8-bit cartridges to disk.
-
- Dan (not a lawyer)
-
- Steve-J,
-
- Wrong, the law IS on our side on this one. (see above)
-
- Dan (not a lawyer)
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 85 Thu Feb 25, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 22:28 EST
-
- Dan,
-
- Well, perhaps you guys at Atari should get new attorneys. The law is very
- clear about what ROMs are. ROMs are computer software. So, under the law, you
- do have a right to make archival backups.
-
- It is interesting to note that I learned something last week here on GEnie
- while looking around in the LAW section of GEnie... evidently PALs, GALs,
- PEELs, and *any* other custom logic also falls under the same classification
- as software, since programs are burned onto these devices. Furthermore, the
- law permits reverse engineering by *any* means necessary, and oddly enough
- guess who started this subject... Atari. Atari vs. Nintendo...do you
- remember this? Atari was in a legal battle over the 10NES program that is
- found in every Nintendo game cartridge. 10NES is a program burned onto a
- custom PAL. Nintendo was trying to stop Atari from producing Nintendo
- compatible game cartridges. Evidently Atari "layered" (a process of disecting
- custom logic layer by layer to obtain the program code) and obtained illegally
- obtained source code (according to the courts) for the 10NES program from the
- US copyright office. When the smoke cleared, Atari came out on top with a
- precedence being set. It is perfectly legal to reverse engineer any device
- 'to learn how the device works in order to better it'.
-
- ROMs are indeed software and fall into this classification. Times have
- changed and so have the laws. Now that the people of the world are becoming
- more technically aware, laws reguarding copyrights of electronic and magnetic
- media have been made more clear.
-
- I don't want to argue and fight over this...that is a bit much. By the time
- we finally have Atari ST emulation our annual sales will be equal or greater
- than Atari's and I would really hate to see either one of our companies waste
- more money on attorneys than we already are now.
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 86 Thu Feb 25, 1993
- D.ENGEL [Thunderbird] at 22:49 EST
-
- Oh great... here it comes again.
-
- Another Earth shattering, precidence setting, monumental legal triumph...
-
- Reminds me of the time atari sued Nintendo because atari delayed the 7800
- until it was too late for them to get a market share, and tried to make it
- look like Nintendo was at fault because they were a monopoly or something.
-
- I wonder how many lynx ads didn't make it to national TV because the funds
- went to pay off Nintendo's legal fees, as ruled by the judge.
-
- Just think, if they won that one it would have set a precidence so they could
- sue Microsoft, IBM, and all the clone makers... shucks!
-
- __________________
- /hunderbird
-
- 'cause I can't get lynx games locally anymore... I wonder why...
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 88 Fri Feb 26, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 17:42 EST
-
- Jim,
-
- Part of waht is considered being an archival backup of
- something is that the archive needs to be at least as secure from
- damage as the origonal medium. Give me some ROMs and a copy of those
- ROMs on a floppy, and I'll hand them to my friends dog. I'll lay
- odds that the ROM is much more secure from damage.
-
- Dan (not a lawyer)
-
- BTW it was Atari Games (Tengen), not Atari Computer in the
- Atari-Nintendo case. Completely different company.
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 90 Fri Feb 26, 1993
- D.ENGEL [Thunderbird] at 22:40 EST
-
- BTW:
-
- That was Atari Inc. a Division of Warner Communications that made the 800
- cartridges which were the subject of the ROM backup lawsuits mentioned above.
-
- THAT Atari was in a position where they could waste money on frivolous
- lawsuits and beurocratic chest-pounding. Look where it got _them_...
-
- Besides, the recently failed lawsuit I was referring to was filed by atari
- corp., not Atari Games. Atari Games was involved in a separate lawsuit because
- they cracked the 10NES lockout on NES carts, and it pissed Nintendo off. The
- lawsuit from atari corp. was a different matter alltogether, revolving around
- Nintendo having too big a market share and paying large sums for _exclusive_
- rights to certain games, preventing atari from being able to get a foothold
- with their extremely late 7800 ProSystem. It was a big waste of money. Wasting
- money better not be high on the priority list right now...
-
- ____________________
- \hunderbird
-
- 'cause I backup all my ROMs with duplicates made from LEGO's...
-
- ...if those aren't the most secure medium, NOTHING is!
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 92 Sun Feb 28, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 06:42 EST
-
- In 1983 our company produced a cartridge backup system that dumped game
- cartridges on to disk where they could be played. We got lots of harrassing
- calls from Atari, HES, and was sued by Epyx. Two years later, we won the suit.
- ROMs are considered software. Under the law, you as the owner of a computer
- program are entitled to make a backup copy for your own personal use. The law
- does indeed ALLOW the use of the BACKUP. Most people USE their BACKUPS and
- put their precious originals away for safe keeping.
-
- Since we have spent thousands of dollars on the various MAC ROMs, there is no
- way that I am going to use those things in our emulation, and as the owner of
- these ROMs, I have the legal right to do this. I am just not allowed to use
- these ROMs *and* the BACKUPs at the same time on different machines.
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 93 Wed Mar 03, 1993
- S.DANUSER [Soul Manager] at 02:58 EST
-
- I was thinking...
-
- Couldn't Atari (or whoever) attach some sort of licensing agreement on their
- ROMs if they didn't want them to be used in emulators? For instance, when
- they sell TOS 2.06 ROMs, they could put a seal on the outside with a
- disclaimer that warned that the chips were only to be used for upgrading an
- Atari computer. If the buyer opens the package, they are legally obligated to
- use the software only in an Atari machine. Thus, anyone who advertised an
- Atari emulator would be encouraging users to break their licensing agreements,
- and could probably be sued quite easily.
-
- Or is that wacky?
-
- Soul Manager
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 94 Wed Mar 03, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 11:58 EST
-
- Soul Manager,
-
- You are correct. Simply stating that the ROMs are licensed (and not sold)
- would protect the owner of the ROMs from duplication. Since you would not be
- the owner of the ROMs, you would not be entitled to the right of making
- archival copies.
-
- However, we can still advertise an emulator that would require these licensed
- ROMs and that would be legal. Under the current laws (and I don't see them
- ever changing) you can sell products that would require (or could require) you
- to break the law using them. A good example would be a lot of martial art
- equipment. You can legally buy the stuff, but you can not legally own it.
- Also, things like lock picking devices, eves droppping equipment, etc. can all
- be purchased but you can not use these devices without permission of the
- person(s)/thing(s) that they are going to be used on.
-
- Remember, the hand gun was created for the sole purpose of killing another
- human being...not animal hunting or anything else. You can buy hand guns,
- however, it is highly frowned upon using them for their intended purpose.
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 95 Wed Mar 03, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 20:38 EST
-
- Soul Manager,
-
- If the emulator uses legally purchased ROMs to do the
- emulation, then there is not problem. It's when you use an image
- file loaded off disk that could have come from anywhere that we have
- problems with it.
-
- A perfect example of this is Gemulator. Origonally, it was
- also going to use a soft loaded TOS image file. We worked with
- Derek, and he designed it so that it loads TOS off the ROMs directly
- whenever you run the program. Heck, we've even sold ROMs to Derek so
- that he could resell them to his customers that may have a hard time
- finding them otherwise. Also, he is fully capable of running multiple
- STs on an IBM using only 1 set of ROMs, so I don't know what the
- problem with the Amiga is that makes it work as 1 set of ROMs = 1
- emulation running.
-
- Dan
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 96 Fri Mar 05, 1993
- STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll] at 02:25 EST
-
- S.DANUSER - Licensing agreements such as those on SOLD merchandise are not
- legally binding. The only legally binding stipulations in any licensing
- agreement are mainly that the software cannot be pirated nor used on more than
- one machine at a time. Other than that, licensing agreements are full of BS.
-
-
- J.DREW2 - I certainly wouldn't mind if Atari gave away free copies of ROM's!!!
- <grin>
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 97 Fri Mar 05, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 03:42 EST
-
- Dan,
-
- There is no "problem" with the Amiga. The copyright laws are *very* clear.
- In an addition to the previous copyright laws reguarding computer software, in
- 1991 congress voted in a few new twisted. You are NOT allowed to use more
- than one copy of a program at the same time. This means that if multiple
- emulations were running, all using the SAME ROM image, that would technically
- be breaking the law.
-
- You (Atari) are evidently allowing 'Derek' to violate your copyrights.
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 98 Fri Mar 05, 1993
- DENNYA [Denny Atkin] at 10:29 EST
-
- You're not allowed to use more than one copy of a program at one time? Boy, I
- break the law on my Amiga all the time, then, darned multitasking!
-
- Are you sure that wasn't referring to situations like a mainframe with dumb
- terminals? I certainly can't see Microsoft upset because you're running three
- copies of Excel under Windows.
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 99 Fri Mar 05, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 11:27 EST
-
- So then it is OK to sun multiple copies of TOS off a floppy whether
- that floppy copy is legal or not then? You claim that you want to
- put tos on disk for your emulation to make it easier to run multiple
- STs on an Amiga. I would that that that would be breaking the same
- laws just as badly. If you are going to require them to use multiple
- disk copies of TOS, one for each emulation, how are you going to
- ensure that they own a set of ROMs for each one of those floppy
- copies? Destroy the ROM after it has been copied to disk?
-
- Dan
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 100 Fri Mar 05, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 18:53 EST
-
- Denny,
-
- That is the copyright laws...only one copy can be run on the same or other
- machines at the same time unless specifically authorized by the copyright
- holder. So, yes, if SoftLogic did not want you running two copies of
- PageStream on the same machine from a single original disk, that would be
- their right under the law.
-
- Dan,
-
- We do not allow multiple emulations of the SAME computer. One emulation of
- each different computer is allowed. One MAC, one IBM, one Atari, etc.
-
- Our problem exists strictly from only having 5 ROM sockets and and ROM SIMM
- socket on our hardware. Since MAC ROMs are generally four DIP packages, IBM
- BIOS is several DIPS packages, Atari ROMs are several DIPS packages....they
- all will NOT fit on the board at the same time.
-
- We will never have two or more of the same computer being emulated at the same
- time with EMPLANT.
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 101 Fri Mar 05, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 19:03 EST
-
- It is not up to the company to make sure everyone runs a legal copy of TOS.
- That is like saying it is up to Atari to make sure that no pirated games are
- to be ran on Atari computers. Drew's company just makes the product, what the
- customers do is their business and if they do stuff illegally, then they are
- taking the chance of getting caught. You cannot hold them liable for what the
- user does. If that was the case, then all computer manufacturers would have
- been sued by all the software companies around.
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 105 Wed Mar 10, 1993
- D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari] at 15:11 EST
-
- The way your hardware is designed is no excuse. If there was any possibility
- what so ever that you may run into copyright problems because of the way you
- designed it, then you should have redesigned it. I'm now dropping out of this
- conversation. I have no more to say on the subject, except that I'm printing
- off a capture of the topic and giving it to our legal department for further
- investigation.
-
- Dan
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 107 Thu Mar 11, 1993
- J.DREW2 at 02:05 EST
-
- Dan,
-
- You are probably not reading this because you have dropped off the face of the
- earth (or at least this conversation)...
-
- There was no "design flaw" with our hardware. It was the only choice possible
- to allow multiple computer emulation to run simultaneously.
-
- We can not babysit everyone who purchases this product to ensure that it is
- used in a legal matter, much the same as a gun store owner doesn't babysit the
- people he/she sells guns to... and you can quote me when you talk to your
- legal department.
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Jim Drew, Vice-President
- Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
-
- ------------
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 108 Fri Mar 12, 1993
- STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll] at 01:50 EST
-
- Oooo! Atari's going off to cry to mama! <grin>
-
- ------------
- Amiga RT
- Category 14, Topic 31
- Message 598 Wed Mar 17, 1993
- J.COLLINS5 [MinuteMan] at 00:29 EST
-
- The following message is a repost from the AMAX topic.
-
- R.HARBISON [Bob Harbison] at 21:28 EST
-
- There's a small company called NuTek, (Yes NU Tek, _not_ NewTek!) that has
- introduced a mac emulator board. The board sells for $899 each, and is IBM
- compatible.
-
- The company is somewhat worried due to the fact that Apple has recently
- lowered prices, possibly undercutting it's board:
-
- NUTEK FINNALLY HAS A PRODUCT OUT!
-
- I've been folowing this Nutek Saga for a while. They were trying to produce a
- set of clean room ROM's for emulating the Mac. This has the potential to do to
- the Mac what Pheonix did to the DOS BIOS market.
-
- If we can just get Jim can be convinced to support these third party ROMs to
- populate his Emplants it could mean a 100% legal, unquestionable way to sell
- Emplants as Mac emulators Ready to RUN! No mor hunting for ROMs.
-
- I suspect from the price of the Nutek board that it's just an IBM Emplant
- with a 680x0 on board.
-
- All those who would like to see Jim look into this post a reply. B)
-
-
-
- ______________________________
-
-
-
-
- Here's a short, humorous discussion of high-density floppy drives in the
- A4000:
-
-
- Amiga RT
- Category 17, Topic 33
- Message 82 Tue Mar 09, 1993
- STUPID at 21:36 EST
-
- Matt:
-
- So all we need to do to get two HD floppies in an A4000 is to take off the
- dust covers and get new faceplates? I'm going to have to explore this a
- little, I think.
-
- ----------
- Amiga RT
- Category 17, Topic 33
- Message 83 Wed Mar 10, 1993
- BOOMER.T [-<<Micah>>-] at 01:50 EST
-
- The HDF drives in the 4000 *are* thicker than a normal HDF drive. About 1.5
- times as thick in fact. I have them both in my hands.
-
- In fact, you can't fit two C= HDF's in the 4000 as they are too thick.
- ----------
- Amiga RT
- Category 17, Topic 33
- Message 85 Wed Mar 10, 1993
- J.EVERS1 [FISHBONE] at 20:19 EST
-
- Micah,
-
- how do you type while holding 2 disk drives?
-
- On second thought........ I don't want to know. >:)
-
-
- FISHBONE >-}}}D
- ----------
- Amiga RT
- Category 17, Topic 33
- Message 86 Thu Mar 11, 1993
- BOOMER.T [-<<Micah>>-] at 02:40 EST
-
- >Micah,
- >
- >how do you type while holding 2 disk drives?
-
- Damn good question! ;-)
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- My computer career started with the illustrious Radio Shack TRS-80 16K.
- Floppies were the rage, as were blocky black and white graphics. Our
- final project in CS class was to create a program with "something that
- moved..." heheheh. An "Animation" as we call them today. On a TRS-80???
- Well, I made a fantasy city, with a flying saucer flying overhead, shooting
- and destroying several buildings. Not too easy with PSET(x,y) commands in
- BASIC!
-
- The first computer I owned was the venerable Commodore 64. I was amazed that
- something with 64K of RAM was only $595! I was a kid in school, with no job
- so I couldn't afford the disk drive, so I made do with the DataCassette
- recorder. :-)
-
- In the meantime I held a part time job programming an original IBM PC with
- two 360k floppies, and a whopping 384K. I was in heaven with floppy drives!
- I programmed mostly in Compiled BASIC and Assembly (done from DEBUG!). While
- I was learning some more advanced languages like Pascal, Fortran, and COBOL,
- I couldn't talk my boss into buying any compilers, so BASIC it was.
-
- After transfering to a larger university it became obvious that I needed a
- "Real" computer for myself. This was 1985, and the rage was the original
- Mac. I was fascinated with it, having only used the PC and C64. A mouse was
- some thing very new to me, and I liked it.
-
- Well, this is where fate stepped in. I was an avid reader of Compute!
- magazine in those days. (Anyone remember typing in machine language programs
- on the C64?) One day I got an issue with this amazing computer on the cover.
- It was the Amiga 1000.
-
- It became painfully obvious that this was by far the most powerful computer
- around. 4,096 colors when the PC had 16, Stereo 8-bit sound, a GUI, and most
- amazing, true multitasking. The first time I saw a digitized HAM picture at
- the store, I *had* to have it.
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- through the paces. It never let me down, although I about pulled my hair
- out wanting more RAM!
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- modem, a scanner, laser printer, and a DMI Resolver graphics card. I
- LOVED that machine, but for ONE thing -- it's graphics.
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- Sixteen colors in hires was pathetic compared to what was current. My DMI
- Resolver looked incredible, but didn't run native software. I wanted a
- machine with great graphics built in.
-
- To the rescue comes AGA! When all the talk of AGA came to the nets, I got
- *very* excited. So much so that I put a deposit in so I could get the first
- one that came out. Finally! All the benefits of the Amiga, with superior
- graphics too! I could finally stash my VGA PC in the corner, and look at my
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- When my Amiga 4000 arrived, it was everything I'd hoped. (Except for the IDE
- interface, but that's another story.) AGA programs were slow coming (at
- least in my eager mind), but several programs I had already supported AGA,
- so I was set. I could see my scans in all their glory, not to mention the
- blazing speed of the 68040!
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- That brings me to my current setup. An A4000 with 18 megs RAM and the stock
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- and animation software and hardware (commercial and PD), but since this is
- the first issue of Amiga Report, I thought it might be a good idea to talk
- about exactly what type of setup is needed to begin working in graphics and
- animation. For those of you who already have your systems set up, hang on
- until next issue and we'll get to the good stuff.
-
- First, exactly what do you need if you want to get started in graphics?
- (Besides an Amiga, of course) With all the peripherals that are out now,
- any Amiga can be used for basic graphics work. If you are doing still
- graphics (single pictures), anything from an A500 with extra memory to an
- A4000 will work. However, if you are really serious and plan to share your
- work with others, I recommend using either a 1200 or 4000 because of the AGA
- graphics. Or if you don't have a 1200/4000, I suggest using DCTV or a 24-bit
- color board with whatever model Amiga you are using. As far as software, you
- will need a good paint program. DPaint IV will probably be first program you
- will want to buy. If you are using DCTV, you will already have DCTVPaint,
- though you still probably want to get DPaint to go along with it.
-
- If you are planning on working with 2D animations, you can use the same
- basic setup that you used for still graphics. Just make sure that you have a
- hard drive, because you're going to be working with some large files. You
- will also want some extra memory, at least 4 meg. An accelerator is nice if
- you plan to work on complex animations.
-
- For 3-D work, you definitly want an accelerator, unless you are using a
- 3000 or 4000. I used to do all my animation work on a 2000 with a GVP 40Mhz
- 68030 accelerrator and a 40Mhz 68882. Even with that, it still seemed too
- slow at times. You will want a large hard drive, at least 120 meg, and AS
- MUCH MEMORY AS YOU CAN AFFORD! Really, if you are planning on doing serious
- 3D animation work, you will want at least 8-10 meg of RAM. You can do good
- animation work with less than that (I don't want to scare anyone off) but I
- also want to be realistic about what you need for serious work. Software?
- Thats a matter of personal choice. If you want to get a fight started, try
- putting a group of animation people in a room, and ask them what animation
- software they think you should use. Actually, its not quite that bad but you
- will get some good (heated) discussions going. If you are trying to decide
- on an animation program, probably the best thing to do is start reading the
- graphics and animations messages on CompuServe, GEnie or on local Amiga
- BBS's. I know a lot of people who use either Lightwave or Imagine.
- Lightwave3D is probably the most respected 3-D program available for the
- Amiga. Unfortunatly, you can only get it by buying the Video Toaster. Oh
- well, we can't have everything (uh, can we?). Besides 3D software, you might
- want to look at Art Department Professional (ADPro), a presentation program
- such as ScalaMM and possibly Pixel 3D Pro. If you are interested in doing
- morphs, you have a choice between several good morphing packages, which I
- plan to review in a later issue.
-
- Besides commercial software, there are a few Public Domain/Shareware
- programs that every graphic artist should have (well, unless you happen to
- have ADPro). I've listed a few of these, and places where they can be found.
- Or you can always check your local Amiga BBS:
-
- ViewTek A Picture/Animation Viewer. Shows GIF's, JFIF/JPEG, Anim Op-5,
- SHAM, CTBL and PCHG images and supports ECS/AGA display modes!
- This means that you will be able to display 256 color GIF's
- directly on your Amiga. (Hey, you gotta have something to look
- at while you're downloading those Ham8 pictures!).
- Author: Thomas Krehbiel
- Current Version: 1.04
- File Sources: GEnie: Amiga RT, File #18719
-
-
- Rend24 Rend24 has several other features but where it really excels is
- as a batch file processor. Rend24 can wait for a rendering pro-
- gram such as LightWave3D, Imagine or VistaPro to write IFF24
- files to disk. Rend24 then grabs each image and converts it to
- an Amiga format and builds them into an anim file. It also works
- with DCTV if you want it to.
- Author: Thomas Krehbiel
- Current Version: 1.05a
- File Sources: GEnie: Amiga RT, File #18420
- CompuServe: AmigaArts Forum, "RND15A.LHA"
-
-
- View View is another graphics/animation player. View's strong point
- is (in my opinion) the way it handles animation files. I use
- View3.4 to show off all my animations.
- Current Version: 3.4
- Author: Michael Hartman
- GEnie: Amiga RT, File #17624
-
- There are probably a lot of other PD or Shareware graphics programs that
- you may want to download, such as Grinder, Vertex, P-Animate and others that
- I'll try to get into next time. But these should get you started if you are
- just getting into graphics.
-
- If any companies (or individuals for that matter) have any new graphics
- software/hardware information that they would like to have passed on to our
- readers, or if anyone finds a new graphics/animation program that they think
- other Amiga user s would like to know about, please send me a message, so I
- can pass the information along. I can be reached at any of the Email
- addresses listed at the beginning of each issue.
-
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- > STR Staff Bio: Tom Mulcahy, Contributing Editor
- ================================================
-
- I'm currently a student at Onondaga Community College, a small school
- in Syracuse, NY. I'm 22 and have been interested in the Amiga for roughly
- six years. I still remember my first ever 'Amiga' experience: Several years
- ago, I was a Nintendo jockey -- not a computer owner. I wanted a computer,
- but had no knowledge whatsoever on what was out there. I knew practically
- nothing of the Amiga, except for the very first Amiga commercial. I vaguely
- remember it. I remember smoke, mystique, and an A1000. Needless to say I
- wanted one! I ripped through any magazines I could find about the Amiga. I
- remember being tempted by the Atari 520ST, since it had similar graphics.
- Christmas came rolling by, and a friend of mine invited me over to check
- something out. His mother had received an Amiga 500, 1084S monitor, and an
- external drive! This was one of the first A500's out. He popped in a
- program he said I HAD to see. It was the game "Barabarian," from Psygnosis.
- I was literally blown away! Nothing at that time was even comparable. Need-
- less to say, after two years of jogging to his house his home to pester his
- mother into letting us use her machine, I got my own Amiga 500. This was to
- last me a few years. As with many Amiga users, my interests progressed as I
- gained experience with the machine. Sure, I'm still interested in games, but
- the graphics, animation and morphing is just too good to pass up. To use
- the more sophisticated packages, I had upgrade my system. I eventually added
- a hard drive, more memory, etc. Today I use an Amiga 1200 with a 40 meg
- hard drive, and an MBX1200 with a 25 MHz 68882 and 4 meg of Fast RAM. Life
- goes on, and the upgrade process continues...
-
-
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- > BABYLON 5? STR FOCUS! A plea for help...
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-
-
- BABYLON 5 AYE or NAY?
- ======================
- Reprinted from STReport Atari Edition #9.08
-
-
-
- The following is uploaded with the request that, if you support what
- appears below, it be further uploaded to other BBSs...local, regional,
- national...relay nets and networks.
-
-
- It's generally recognized that there would not have been a third
- season of the original Trek series had it not been for the action of
- science fiction fans across the country who, seeing in that program
- something they liked, wrote to the network to keep the show on the air.
- Their voices were heard, and the show stayed on the air for one more
- season. That's the part everyone knows. What's not generally considered
- outside the Television Industry are all of the ramifications of that
- action.
-
- At two seasons, a little over 50 episodes, there were not nearly
- enough episodes to go into general syndication. At two seasons, the show
- would have been bought as a package by fewer stations, would have popped
- up far less often on television sets subsequent to the original series'
- cancellation. It's altogether possible that it might not have shown up at
- all, and been consigned to the NBC vaults on the grounds of insufficient
- episodes for syndication marketing. (It happens; how many episodes of
- Captain Nice have you seen lately?)
-
- With that third season, there were finally enough episodes on hand to
- go into general syndication. And it was in syndication that Star Trek
- gradually built up the viewership and the popularity that led to
- conventions, that resulted in a generation of viewers to whom the term
- "klingon" was not some obscure reference but a part of American popular
- culture. Without that third season, the Star Trek phenomenon would never
- have had a chance to grow.
-
- There would have been no new novels, no animated series, no role
- playing games, no Star Trek I, II, III, IV, V or VI. There would have
- been no Next Generation or any other subsequent series.
-
- All of that...ALL of that...happened because concerned viewers took a
- moment to voice their opinions to those who were in a position to listen,
- and to act upon those opinions.
-
- Now... what does this have to do with Babylon 5?
-
- Some of you have seen it. Many more of you are about to see it.
- Throughout the year-plus that I've been talking about this show at
- conventions and on the computer nets, I've emphasized a number of agendas:
- our desire to Get It Right; to avoid shilling and lying to fans, as is so
- often done by producers eager to cash in on *SCI-FI*; and our intention to
- do intelligent stories with interesting characters.
-
- And there's one other item: I've said, time and again, not to believe
- any of the hype, but rather to trust to your own considered instincts.
- And it is that subject which is the point of this essay. You now have the
- opportunity to judge our efforts for yourself.
-
- Babylon 5, as it stands in its present form, as a pilot, is the first
- time that the crew, the cast, the director and others have come together.
- Four weeks of shooting, two days of rehearsal, and a budget roughly
- *ONE-FOURTH* that of DS9's pilot. As has been stated from the very
- beginning, it has all the flaws you would expect of a new project, in
- which people have to act together for the first time, sets may or may not
- be all perfect, and the bugs are still being worked out. That's what a
- pilot is for, to try things, see what works, adjust, and move on.
-
- The fundamental question behind Babylon 5 comes down to this: do you
- like what you see? Does it make you want to see more? Have we kept our
- promise as far as what was actually *delivered* in the pilot?
-
- Because there *is* more to come. There has always been a plan for a
- series to follow. If anything, that was the point of the entire
- exercise...to tell a story. To create a novel for TV that would span five
- years, for which the pilot is the opening chapter. Having now seen, or
- about to see the foundation for that story, and before being asked to
- lend support to that series, you have a right to some sense of what that
- series would entail, and what you're being asked to support. One should
- never sign a blank check on the bank of one's conscience. So here's a
- preview.
-
- You will find out what happened to Sinclair, for starters, during the
- Earth/Minbari war. For nearly 10 years, Sinclair has worked to convince
- himself that nothing happened to him on the Line other than what seems to
- be the case: that he blacked out for 24 hours. He's just managed to
- convince himself of this. Now, suddenly, someone comes into his life and
- with seven words -- you'll know them when you hear them -- completely
- unravels the self-deception. He knows then that something DID happen to
- him, that someone DID mess with his mind...and he is going to find out
- who, and why.
-
- The ramifications of that discovery will have a major influence on
- the series, on his relationships, and the future of not only his character
- but many others.
-
- You will see what a Vorlon is...and what it represents. And what it
- may have to do with our own saga, and a hidden relationship to some of our
- other characters (watch the reception scene carefully). We'll discover
- that there are MANY players in this game. You'll find out what happened
- to Babylon 4, and it will call into question what is real, what is not,
- and the ending of that episode is one that you have not seen before on
- television.
-
- We'll find that most every major character is running to, or away
- from something in their hearts, or their pasts, or their careers.
- Garibaldi's checkered past will catch up with him in a way that will
- affect his role and make him a very different character for as much as a
- full season, and have lasting effects thereafter. Lyta will take part in
- a voyage of discovery that will very much change her character. She will
- be caught up in a web of intrigue and forced to betray the very people she
- has come to care for.
-
- We will see wheels within wheels, discover the secret groups behind
- the Earth and Minbari governments who suspect, with good reason, that one
- of the B5 crew may be a traitor, who sold out Earth during the
- Earth/Minbari war.
-
- Some of the established empires in the pilot will fall. Some will
- rise unexpectedly. Hopes and fortunes will be alternately made or
- destroyed. At least one major race not yet known even to EXIST will make
- its presence known, but only gradually. Some characters will fall from
- grace. Others will make bargains whose full price they do not
- understand...but will eventually come to realize, and regret.
-
- At the end of the first season, one character will undergo a MAJOR
- change, which will start the show spinning on a very different axis. The
- first season will have some fairly conventional stories, but others will
- start the show gradually moving toward where I want it to go. One has to
- set these things up gradually. Events in the story -- which is very much
- the story of Jeffrey Sinclair -- will speed up in each subsequent season.
-
- Someone he considers a friend will betray him. Another will prove to
- be the exact opposite of what Sinclair believes to be true. Some will
- live. Some will die. He will be put through a crucible of terrible
- force, that will change him, and alter his destiny in a profound and
- terrible way...if he goes one way, or the other, will determine not only
- his own fate, but that of millions of others. He will grow, and become
- stronger, better, wiser...or be destroyed by what fate is bringing his
- way. In sum, it is a story of hope against terrible adversity and
- overwhelming odds.
-
- Each of our characters will be tempted in a different way to ally
- with a dark force determined to once and for all destroy the peace. Some
- will fall prey to the temptation, others will not, and pay the price for
- their resistance.
-
- The homeworld of one of our major characters will be decimated. War
- will become inevitable. And when it comes, Babylon 5 will be forever
- changed.
-
- That, in broad brush strokes, is a little of what I plan to do with
- the series. It is, as stated, a novel for television, with a definite
- beginning, middle and end. The point being this:
-
- If you genuinely approve of what you see in Babylon 5, if what we
- promised is what we delivered, if having seen the prologue to the five
- year story that is Babylon 5 you now wish to see the rest of the
- story...if, in short, we haven't lied to you, and you like what you
- see...then I ask that you voice your opinions. Space Rangers has been
- canceled; the fate of other SF shows is in question because studios and
- networks just aren't sure that there's a market for another SF series.
-
- How can YOU help?
-
- By doing the following:
-
- 1) Write or fax the program director of your local TV station, the one
- that aired Babylon 5, telling them that you want to see the series
- which follows Babylon 5, and why.
-
- 2) Send another letter, or a a copy of that letter to Dick Robertson, Sr.
- Vice President, Warner Bros. Domestic Television Distribution, 4000
- Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, 91522.
-
- If, on the other hand, you think we blew it...then let the show go
- the way of the trilobite. I've railed more than once against the idea
- that "Bad SF is better than no SF," and won't back off of that now that
- it's my own child on the railroad ties, waiting to see if a Mountie will
- untie it before the incoming train does its grisly business.
-
- It's your choice, and your voice. And if you don't think one voice
- matters, think of the long history of a certain other show that would have
- long ago been consigned to the vaults of television history had it not
- been for involved and interested viewers.
-
- We made the show, and did the very best that we could. Now it's in
- your hands...
-
-
- J. Michael Straczynski,
- Creator of Babylon 5
-
-
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- > CPU STATUS REPORT SPECIAL REPORT; COMPARING THE NEW HARDWARE
- =================
-
-
-
- A COMPARISON: AMIGA 1200 VS. FALCON030
- =======================================
-
-
- Information compiled by Ken Baum 1992/93
-
-
- Here is a technical comparison between Atari's new Falcon 030,
- Commodore's new Amiga 1200 and Apple's new Performa 400. All of these
- machines are aimed at the home computer user in price and power. They
- each feature their own Multitasking Graphic User Interface (GUI) operating
- system, which is not compatible with MS-DOS. Each of these computers has
- their own software library. They are all based on Motorola brand CPU's.
- You won't find "Intel inside" any of these machines, unless it's in the
- form of an emulator board!
-
- Editor's Note: I E-mailed Mr. Baum about his first release of this com-
- parison from several weeks ago, due to some errors. Most have been
- cleared up, but some remain. I will note these as we go along.
-
-
- Atari Falcon CBM Amiga 1200 Apple Performa 400
- ------------ -------------- ------------------
- CPU 68030 68EC020 68030
- speed(Mhz) 16 14.32 16
- MIPS 3.84 2.5 3.84
- data path(bit) 32 (16 used) 32 32
-
- *The MIPS rating of the A1200 is incorrect. Our own Tom Mulcahy says his
- benchmarks report his A1200 at 2.96 MIPS (with 4 meg of Fast RAM). Though
- it should be noted that MIPS is meaningless when used to compare different
- platforms.
-
- address space(bit) 24 24 24
- instruction cache 256 bytes 256 bytes 256 bytes
- data cache 256 bytes no 256 bytes
-
- FPU optional optional optional
- socket on board yes no no
- type 68881/68882 68881/68882 68881/68882
-
- DSP yes no no
- type 56001 N/A N/A
- speed(Mhz) 32 N/A N/A
- MIPS 16 N/A N/A
-
- MEMORY & EXPANSION
- ram(base model) 4MB(16bit) 2MB(32bit CHIP) 4MB(32bit)
- max ram 14 MB 10 MB(>w/3rd party) 10MB
- type proprietary proprietary/PCMCIA SIMM
- rom 512K 512K to 2MB 512K
-
- *Mr. Baum fails to note the A1200's Trapdoor 32-bit expansion slot.
-
- DISK DRIVES
- floppy 3.5" 1.44HD 3.5" 880K 3.5" 1.44HD
- format Atari\MS-DOS(SAME) Amiga w\MS-DOS Mac w\MS-DOS
- hard internal internal internal
- type 2.5" IDE 2.5" IDE 3.5" SCSI
- size 65MB 40MB 80MB
-
- I/O PORTS
- mouse/joystick 2reg 2analog 2 reg 1 mouse
- serial RS-232C RS-232 2 MAC
- parallel BI-directional Centronics no
- video-out analog RGB\VGA analog\RGB\VGA analog RGB\VGA
- composite\RF composite\RF
- audio-in stereo 1/8"mini no mono RCA
- -out stereo 1/8"mini stereo RCA mono RCA
- external floppy no yes yes
- internal IDE yes yes no
- external SCSI yes SCSI II no yes
- midi in, out/thru no no
- DSP yes(1 MHZ trans) no no
- network Localtalk LAN no Appletalk LAN
-
- *Mr. Baum says that the A1200's parallel port is not bi-directional. I noted
- this when I E-Mailed him, but it was never changed. I guess those of us with
- scanners and Parnet setups haven't really been using them, huh?
-
- *He also fails to note that the Amiga can have up to THREE additional external
- floppy drives.
-
- EXPANSION internal bus exp cpu expansion slot Processor
- 128K cartridge PCMCIA 2(16bit) Direct Slot
- DSP port
- SOUND
- resolution 16bit\50Khz 8bit\50Khz 8bit\22Khz
- channels 8 4 1
- input yes\stereo no yes\mono
- output stereo stereo mono
- internal speaker yes no yes
-
- *I also told him that the Amiga's sound can be 28 kHz in stereo and 56 kHz
- in mono. Note that the Falcon's 16-bit sound is due to the DSP.
-
- VIDEO
- resolution
- -minimum 320x200 320x200 640x480
- -maximum 640x480 1280x400\640x960(i) 640x480
- palette(colors) 262,144 16.8 million 16.8 million
- maximum displayed 65,536(640x400) 256,000(all res) 256
- overscan yes yes no
-
- *Due to space considerations, I can forgive him for not listing more of
- the 1200's graphics modes, but he could have at least listed the 800x600
- mode.
-
- MISC
- clock yes no yes
- keyboard type attached full attached full detached full
-
- *Internal clock in the A1200 is OPTIONAL. Okay, C= was crazy for doing
- that, but I _had_ to mention it.
-
- OPERATING SYSTEM
- type multitasking gui multitasking gui multitasking gui
- location rom\disk rom\disk rom\disk
-
- *He lists the Mac as being multitasking. That's funny. MultiFinder is
- NOT a multitasking system. Programs CAN multitask with it, but they
- must be specifically written to do so, and if another not-so-inclined
- program is run at the same time, it can lock out the rest of the programs
- until it's finished.
-
- PRICE
- retail $1299.00 $1099.00 $1450.00
- street N/A $850.00 $1150.00
-
- *I'd just like to point out that for approx. $1200, you can get an A1200
- with a 25 MHz 68882, 4 meg of Fast RAM (total of 6 meg), an internal clock
- and an 80 meg hard drive. That's still less than the Falcon's retail
- price, or, for approx. $1500, you can have an A1200 with a 40 MHz 68030,
- a 40 MHz 68882, FIVE meg of Fast RAM (total of 7 meg) and an 80 meg hard
- drive.
-
- Sure, it's not fair to compare street price with retail, but to establish
- a street price, the machine HAS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE. Falcons,
- anyone?
-
- SOFTWARE(included)
-
- Atari Falcon 030: MultiTOS 4.0-operating system
- SpeedoGDOS-scalable font extension w/14 Bitstream
- fonts.
-
- Falcon D2D-audio direct to disk recording & editing
- Atari Works-integrated word processor, database,
- spreadsheet.
-
- Audio Fun Machine-DSP digital audio FX
- System Audio Manager-record & assign sounds to system
- event.
-
- Various Accessory programs:
- calculator,calendar,Talking Clock games, etc.
-
-
- CBM Amiga 1200 AmigaDOS 3.0-operating system
- CrossDOS-allows reading & writing MS-DOS format disks
- *Deluxe Paint IV AGA-full featured 2D paint & animation
- *Final Copy-full featured word processor
- Various Utility Programs:Calculator,screenblanker etc.
- (*indicates a limited time offer)
-
- Apple Performa 400 System 7.1-operating system
- Symantec Greatworks-integrated word
- processor,database,
- spreadsheet,charting,paint & telecomm program
- At Ease-program launcher
- Teleware M.Y.O.B.-checkbook & cardfile program
- T/Maker Clip Art-business graphics
- Various Accessory programs:calculator,alarm
- clock,games etc.
-
- FINAL NOTES:
- The Atari & Commodore machines are housed in a single case. They DO
- NOT have detached keyboards. The Atari Falcon is in the same case as it's
- predecessor the 1040STE, and the Amiga 1200 is in a restyled case similar
- to the Amiga 500. Also, each of these computers is available without a
- hard drive for less money. However, models with hard drives were used for
- comparison purposes. These configuraions are those as supplied by the
- manufacturer. Individual dealers may offer other configuration options.
- The Apple Performa 400 has a separate keyboard, it is in the same case as
- the MAC LCII(In fact, that's exactly what it is!).
-
- The Atari & Commodore machines can operate at many different screen
- resolutions and would require a multisync monitor for optimum flexibility.
- Also, the Commodore Amiga 1200's maximum resolutions are interlaced(i).
- It's maximum non-interlaced resolution is 640x480. Both the Atari Falcon &
- Commodore Amiga 1200 will also overscan, giving them more resolution in
- that mode and making them suitable for Desk Top Video (DTV). The Apple
- Performa would require an analog VGA type monitor. The Atari Falcon is
- the only computer here with a DSP (digital signal processor) chip.
-
- revision 1.1
- Information compiled by Ken Baum 1992/93
- E-mail on GEnie or Delphi:<KEBAUM>
- Sources: Amiga World, Amiga Format, AtariUser, ST Format, MACWorld
- GEnie & Delphi.
-
-
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- > STR Staff Bio: Mike Troxell, Graphics Editor
- =============================================
-
-
- Hi, I'm Mike Troxell, Amiga Report's graphics editor. Since this is the
- first issue of the 'new and improved' Amiga Report, Rob asked each of us to
- write a short bio and tell you a little about ourselves.
-
- I live in Chattanooga, TN where I attend college at Chattanooga State
- Technical Community College. I'm taking a double major in Industrial
- Technology and Applied Technology, along with computer networking classes.
- After I graduate this April, I'd like to work as a computer network tech-
- nician (maybe go on to become a CNE) but I'm also looking into the eddy
- current technology field. If I'm not at school or work you will probably
- find me in front of my A1200 working on an animation, or maybe finishing
- work on a morph sequence.
-
- My first computer (I believe I bought it around 1980) was a C=64. When
- the Amiga 500 came out I took one look at the graphics and knew I had to
- have this machine. After playing around with several PD raytracing pro-
- grams, I finally broke down and bought a copy of Imagine, a Mega-Midget
- Racer accelerator (anyone remember them?) and 4 meg of extra RAM. If you
- you have ever done much graphics or animation work, you know what I mean
- when I say that graphics is an addiction. No matter what system you are
- using, your computer is never fast enough, you never have enough memory and
- your hard drive is too small. As soon as these three basic laws of graphics
- work began to sink in, I sold my A500 and bought an A2000 with a GVP 40MHZ
- 68030 accelerator, 10 meg of RAM and a larger hard drive. I'd been using the
- A2000 for two years and (except for running out of memory every time I try
- to render a scene with Carmen Rizzolo's 3-D USS Enterprise object - it takes
- around 12 meg) I was really happy with my A2000 system. Even better, my bank
- account was beginning to recover from buying the A2000/GVP/RAM/HD, when all
- of a sudden C= comes out with AGA graphics. The next thing I knew I had
- sold my A2000 and bought an A1200. I've been using the A1200 for about a
- month and I really like it. I'll like it even better once I get a GVP A1230
- and more memory!
-
- There are a lot of people who are better at graphics than I am. I'm
- sure many of you who are reading this have animations which are better than
- anything I've done. I'm not here writing the graphics column for Amiga
- Report because I'm the best animator Rob could find. I'm here because I love
- doing graphics and animation, because I think the Amiga is the best graphics
- platform around and because I'm sick of Amiga users having to hunt for any
- Amiga information, while other platforms have dozens of online and hardcopy
- magazines. Maybe we can help change that with Amiga Report. Give us a few
- issues and then let us know how we're doing.
-
-
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-
- :HOW TO GET YOUR OWN GENIE ACCOUNT:
- _________________________________
-
- Set your communications software to Half Duplex (or Local Echo)
- Call: (with modem) 800-638-8369.
- Upon connection type HHH (RETURN after that).
- Wait for the U#= prompt.
-
- Type: XTX99587,CPUREPT then, hit RETURN.
-
- GEnie costs only $4.95 a month for unlimited evening and weekend access to
- more than 100 services including electronic mail, online encyclopedia,
- shopping, news, entertainment, single-player games, and bulletin boards
- on leisure and professional subjects. With many other services, including
- the biggest collection of files to download and the best online games, for
- only $6 per hour.
-
- MONEY BACK GUARANTEE! Any time during your first month of membership if
- you are not completely satisfied, just ask for your $4.95 back.
-
-
- GEnie Information copyright (C) 1991 by General Electric
- Information Services/GEnie, reprinted by permission
-
-
- ****************************************************************************
-
-
- > AB20 Amiga CDROM Review "Inexpensive Shareware Source!"
- =======================
- By Tom Mulcahy
-
-
- There aren't many shareware CD-ROMs available for the Amiga. Besides the
- Fred Fish online CD-ROMs, the AB20 is the only other shareware CD-ROM that I
- am aware of. Those of you familiar with the Internet may recognize the name.
- Ab20.Larc.Nasa.Gov was one of the larger Amiga sites on the internet. There
- are roughly three hundred megabytes of programs in about 3,000 files. More
- than enough to keep you busy for quite a while. There is quite an array of
- programs to explore, ranging from GNU utilites to MOD music files, to the
- ever popular Euro Demos. Also on this CD-ROM are all of the Usenet archives
- from Comp.Sources.Amiga and Comp.Binaries.Amiga newsgroups. All of the files
- are archived into TAR format as well. Since the CDROM is in ISO-9660 format
- it can be read on a variety of platforms. At $24.95 you really can't go
- wrong.
-
- 1-800-786-9907
- 1-510-947-5996
- 1-510-947-1644 FAX
- Walnut Creek CDROM
- 1547 Palos Verdes, Suite 260
- Walnut Creek, CA 94596-2228
-
-
-
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- > VIRUS?? STR Feature New Virii??
- """""""""""""""""""
-
-
-
- NEW VIRUS STRAINS IDENTIFIED!
- =============================
- Reprinted from STReport Atari Edition #9.08
-
-
-
- From the Jerry Pournelle RT on Genie
- ------------------------------------
-
- By Dave Moeller
-
- Compiled by Lloyd E. Pulley, Sr.
-
-
- Several new computer viruses have been identified:
-
-
- POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS:
- --------------------------
- Never calls itself a "virus," but instead refers to itself as an
- "electronic microorganism." Infected computers immediately stop
- processing and display "computationally challenged" as an error message.
-
-
- GOVERNMENT ECONOMIST VIRUS:
- ---------------------------
- Nothing works, but all your diagnostic software says everything is fine.
-
-
- CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS:
- -------------------
- Especially insidious, this virus comes in two versions, each version
- replacing the other at random intervals.
-
- Under Version 1, the computer locks up, screen splits erratically with
- a message appearing in each half blaming the other side for the problem.
-
- Version 2 runs every program on the hard drive simultaneously, but
- doesn't allow the user to accomplish anything.
-
-
- FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT VIRUS:
- -------------------------
- Divides your hard drive into hundreds of little units, each of which does
- practically nothing but all of which claim to be the most important part
- of the computer and therefore requires additional resources. When
- detected, attempts to invoke Version 2 of the Congressional virus.
-
-
- FEDERAL BUDGET VIRUS:
- ---------------------
- Attempts to allocate non-existent resources to hard drive partitions
- created by the Bureaucrat virus. Upon failing, passes control to the IRS
- virus which locks up the entire computer and seizes its assets.
-
-
- AIRLINE VIRUS:
- --------------
- You're in Dallas, but your data is in Singapore.
-
-
- KERVORKIAN VIRUS:
- -----------------
- Helps your computer shut down whenever it wants to.
-
-
- PAUL REVERE VIRUS:
- ------------------
- This revolutionary virus warns you of impending attack -- once if by LAN,
- twice if by C.
-
-
-
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- > BBS ETHICS STR InfoFile A good rule of thumb for all....
- """""""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- Ethics For BBS Users
- (Source Unknown)
-
- The following are a few points of general BBS etiquette. If you
- wish to maintain your welcome on whatever system you happen to
- call, it would be to your advantage to observe these few rules.
-
- 1. Don't habitually hang up on a system. Every SysOp is aware
- that accidental disconnections happen once in a while but we
- do tend to get annoyed with people who hang up every single
- time they call because they are either too lazy to terminate
- properly or they labor under the mistaken assumption that
- the 10 seconds they save online is going to significantly
- alter their phone bill. "Call Waiting" is not an acceptable
- excuse for long. If you have it and intend to use the line
- to call BBS systems, you should either have it disconnected
- or find some other way to circumvent it. In some areas a *70
- before dialing, will disable call waiting for that call!
-
- 2. Don't do dumb things like leave yourself a message that says
- "Just testing to see if this thing works". Where do you
- think all those other messages came from if it didn't work?
- Also, don't leave whiney messages that say "Please leave me
- a message". If ever there was a person to ignore, it's the
- one who begs someone to leave him a message. If you want to
- get messages, start by reading the ones that are already
- online and getting involved in the conversations that exist.
-
- 3. Don't use the local equivalent of a chat command unless you
- really have some clear cut notion of what you want to say
- and why. Almost any SysOp is more than happy to answer
- questions or offer help concerning his system. Unfortunately,
- because about 85% of the people who call want to chat and
- about 99% of those people have absolutely nothing to say
- besides "How old are you?" or something equally irrelevant,
- fewer SysOps even bother answering their pagers every day.
-
- 4. When you are offered a place to leave comments when exiting
- a system, don't try to use this area to ask the SysOp
- questions. It is very rude to the other callers to expect
- the SysOp to carry on a half visible conversation with
- someone. If you have a question or statement to make and
- expect the SysOp to respond to it, it should always be made
- in the section where all the other messages are kept. This
- allows the SysOp to help many people with the same problem
- with the least amount of effort on his part.
-
- 5. Before you log on with your favorite pseudonym, make sure
- that handles are allowed. Most SysOps don't want people
- using handles on the system. There is not enough room for
- them, they get silly games of one-upmanship started, it is
- much nicer to deal with a person on a personal basis, and
- last but not least, everyone should be willing to take full
- responsibility for his actions or comments instead of
- slinging mud from behind a phoney name.
-
- 6. Take the time to log on properly. There is no such place as
- RIV, HB,ANA or any of a thousand other abbreviations people
- use instead of their proper city. You may think that
- everyone knows what RIV is supposed to mean, but every BBS
- has people calling from all around the country and I assure
- you that someone from Podunk Iowa has no idea what you're
- talking about.
-
- 7. Don't go out of your way to make rude observations like
- "Gee, this system is slow". Every BBS is a trade off of
- features. You can generally assume that if someone is
- running a particular brand of software, that he is either
- happy with it or he'll decide to find another system he
- likes better. It does nobody any good when you make
- comments about something that you perceive to be a flaw
- when it's running the way the SysOp wants. Constructive
- criticism is somewhat more welcome. If you have an alter-
- native method that seems to make good sense then run it up
- the flagpole.
-
- 8. When leaving messages, stop and ask yourself whether it is
- necessary to make it private. Unless there might be some
- particular reason that everyone shouldn't know what you're
- saying, don't make it private. We don't call them PUBLIC
- bulletin boards for nothing, folks. It's very irritating to
- other callers when there are blank spots in the messages
- that they can't read and it stifles interaction between
- callers.
-
- 9. If your favorite BBS has a time limit, observe it. If it
- doesn't, set a limit for yourself and abide by it instead.
- Don't tie up a system until it finally kicks you off and
- then call back with another name. This same rule applies to
- downloading or playing games. Only one person at a time can
- be logged on to a BBS and it isn't fair to everyone else if
- you overstay your welcome. Remember, a BBS is best when it
- can be left wide open. If you try and cheat the rules you
- just hurt everybody by forcing the SysOp to adopt more
- stringent policies. I can't count the number of BBS's that
- are now locked tighter than a drum because of people who
- cheat and abuse.
-
- 10. Don't call a BBS just to look at the list of other BBS
- numbers. Most especially don't call a system as a new user
- and run right to the other numbers list. There is probably
- very little that's more annoying to any SysOp than to have
- his board completely passed over by you on your way to
- another board.
-
- 11. HAVE THE COMMON COURTESY TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT PASSES IN
- FRONT OF YOUR FACE. When a BBS displays your name and asks
- "Is this you?", don't say yes when you can see perfectly
- well that it is mispelled. Also, don't start asking
- questions about simple operation of a system until you have
- thoroughly read all of the instructions that are available
- to you. I assure you that it isn't any fun to answer a
- question for the thousandth time when the answer is
- prominently displayed in a system bulletin or instructions.
- Use some common sense when you ask your questions. The
- person who said "There's no such thing as a stupid question"
- obviously never operated a BBS.
-
- 12. If by some chance you should encounter an error while you
- are online (Heaven forbid!), ALWAYS take the time to leave
- the SysOp a message describing the circumstance. Don't just
- say "There was an error". That is not helpful in the least.
- Chances are that he knows there was an error. What he needs
- to know is what you were doing when the error occurred so
- that he can have some chance of finding and correcting it.
- If the error happened after you input something, tell him
- what it was. Remember that a BBS can't improve unless
- you're willing to help.
-
- 13. Don't be personally abusive. It doesn't matter whether you
- like a SysOp or think he's a jerk. The fact remains that he
- has a large investment in making his computer available,
- usually out of the goodness of his heart. If you don't like
- a SysOp or his system, just remember that you can change
- the channel any time you want. Calling a SysOp names or
- making uninformed comments about his lifestyle only shows
- you for the child you really are.
-
- 14. Keep firmly in mind that you are a guest on any BBS you
- happen to call. Don't think of logging on as one of your
- basic human rights. Every person that has ever put a
- computer system online for the use of other people has
- spent a lot of time and money to do so. While he doesn't
- expect non stop pats on the back, it seems reasonable that
- he should at least be able to expect fair treatment from
- his callers. This includes following any of the rules for
- system use he has laid out without grumping about it. Every
- SysOp has his own idea of how he wants his system to be run.
- It is really none of your business why he wants to run it
- the way he does. Your business is to either abide by what
- he says, or call some other BBS where you feel that you can
- obey the rules.
-
-
-
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- > NVN WANTS YOU! STR InfoFile Another Network Supports Amiga!
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- National Videotext Network (NVN) has recently added an Amiga Forum
- to it's growing lists of available services. The Amiga Forum is ready
- and waiting for you!
-
- The future of NVN will be one which continues to remain sensitive and
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- and $6.00/hour from 6 pm to 8 am; and on Saturday and Sunday for a connect
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-
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-
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- an Account # (usually within 24 hours) National Videotex Network and the
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-
-
-
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- > STReport CONFIDENTIAL "Rumors Tidbits Predictions Observations Tips"
- """""""""""""""""""""
-
-
- - New York City, NY MOTOROLA HAS 68060 ALL SET TO GO!
- -----------------
-
-
- Reportedly, the 68060 is quite capable of overpowering the PowerPC.
- While much attention has been focused on the prowess of the upcoming
- PowerPC RISC processor, Motorola has been quietly working on a powerful
- successor to the 68040, the 68060, that will outperform the first PowerPC
- to be released, the PowerPC 601. Motorola's 68060 will perform in the
- range of 100 million instructions per second (MIPS), compared with the 29
- MIPS of a 68040 with a 33MHz clock rate. Because the 68060 will be faster
- than the PowerPC 601, the 601 will be relegated to a mid-range Mac, while
- the 68060 will get a glamour job in a line of high-end Macs in early 1994,
- according to industry sources. The 68060 employs super-scalar execution,
- that is, the ability to perform two instructions per clock cycle.
- Motorola plans volume shipments of a 50MHz 68060 in early 1994, with a
- 66MHz chip to follow. Motorola skipped development of a 68050 in favor of
- the more radical 68060 design.
-
-
-
- - New York City, NY BABBAGES DROP ATARI LYNX LINE!
- -----------------
-
-
- From our roving reporter who spied this message; "According to the
- manager of the Babbages where I buy most of my Lynx games from... It looks
- like the chain will be dropping Lynx games too! That means now the 3
- major Lynx sellers, Toys R' Us, Software Etc, and Babbages have dropped
- Lynx from their stores. Gee, its getting hard to find titles for the
- doggone thing! Another one bites the dust.... THANKS ATARI!
-
-
-
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-
- > STR Dealer Directory
- ====================
-
- Armadillo Brothers
- 753 East 3300 South
- Salt Lake City, Utah
- 801-484-2791
- GEnie: B.GRAY
-
-
- (Dealers: To have your name added, please send Email!)
-
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- Amiga Report's "EDITORIAL CARTOON"
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- > A "Quotable Quote" "Byron says, 'hey!'"
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- STR Online! "YOUR INDEPENDENT NEWS SOURCE" March 19, 1993
- Amiga Edition Copyright (c) 1993 All Rights Reserved No.1.01
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
- Views, Opinions and Articles Presented herein are not necessarily those of
- the editors and staff of Amiga Report International Online Magazine or of
- STR Publications. Permission to reprint articles is hereby granted, unless
- otherwise noted. Reprints must, without exception, include the name of the
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- responsible for the use or misuse of information contained herein or the
- results obtained there from.
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